Sunday, August 17, 2008

Things I Hate In FFXI - Vol. 2

Okay, this is something that has always bothered me. It's not isolated to FFXI and is actually a big problem that is inherent to the MMORPG set up.

How exactly are you supposed to get enthralled in a storyline when you do missions over and over again?

You've just run a group through a very difficult, very complex event. The boss monster is dead and you stand victorious in battle.

Just like last week.

Let's take the basic storyline missions, for example. You spend days getting groups together and running through mission after mission.

Then you kill the Shadowlord.

The story makes perfect sense. It helps tie together the previous missions.

Everything is right with the world.

Then, two weeks later, you help an LS mate run the same mission.

And he's there again.

You killed him. You helped save him from [spoiler deleted].

You made a difference.

And yet... Two weeks later, he's there again.


He even says the same things to you.

It spoils the whole thing.

You left the event feeling victorious, feeling powerful. You had done something important and epic.

That's why you did it in the first place.

Seeing it all over again takes that away from you.

It's like boxing with your Dad when you were a kid. He'd pretend to get hurt and you'd feel proud.

Then he'd jump back up and you'd die a little inside.

On a side note, when I turned eighteen, I totally kicked my father's ass.

I probably shouldn't feel proud about that part.

And yet...

Anyway, you get my point. One of the fundamental problems with this kind of game is that the events aren't isolated.

There's no closure.

Do you remember FFVII?

When I killed Sephiroth, that motherf--ker stayed dead.

Credits roll, game over.

You didn't go back to level grinding and then do the fight over again because Yuffie had to work the time you killed him before.

Oh hey. Cid forgot to get the key item. Let's go kill him again.

I realize that there's no actual way to fix this problem without making the game single player.


I need to make some calls.


At 7:25 PM, Blogger Lordshadow said...

No Dave, no banning everyone who isn't you.

At 9:19 PM, Blogger Dustin said...

Apparently someone didn't see Advent Children?

At 9:23 PM, Blogger RSS adder said...

Some MMOs attempt this by having unique missions that only occur once. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but some have tried or are trying to do this.

At 9:37 PM, Blogger Will said...

I have noticed that with CoP that a certain political figure from ZM is not mentioned or said to not be around. So SE did make it seem as if there was a difference made. Or maybe I am just dreaming

At 9:58 PM, Blogger Fiye said...

They do it by having that Non-tonberry'd chick take Kam'lanaut's place. Since both him and the "kid" tend to die in their little expansion set.

At 3:40 AM, Blogger Harsisus said...

Yes I agree with dustin, Dave. You need to see Final Fantasy: Advent Children; just copy that and you're set to repeat the bloody thing over and over again.

At 7:10 AM, Blogger L.C.W. said...

FFXI-2 (the single player version)

Now with mega awesome solo possibilities (like everything).

{yes, please} {can I have it?}

At 1:52 PM, Blogger Tyler said...

Square's too lazy to make a whole FFXI single-player. They'd just stick you with five Adventuring Fellows that you meet as a cutscene from entering Valkurm Dunes and party with them the whole time.

Underneath the boring grind aspect, I think it would actually be a decent game. >.>

At 1:12 PM, Blogger Carlos said...

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At 1:15 PM, Blogger Carlos said...

Well I dont know about FFXI, but I used to play WoW for a while back then, long enough to reach the max level and learn some of the lore, the point is, WoW DO have a few EPIC missions that only the FIRST group/guild of the server, has the right, or reward if you may for "doing it", it comes in form of a spider mount and a title, but thats aside the point, the point is that there is only 1 person running around in the server with those things, and only a handful of people who actually SAW the event with their own toons, if you wanted to see it, you had to watch it on youtube or something, I kind of think its a bad thing since Im not a hardcore player and I wanted to see that shit with my own toon, but it was not possible.

I mean, would it be better if after beating that said Shadowlord, the next time you wont fight the Shadowlord itself?, but a shadow/minnion with the same skills?, probably. It would take some extra programming tough


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