Saturday, June 14, 2008

Just Plain Wrong

I'm quite sure I've made my hatred loathing feelings about WoW quite clear.

I'm not a fan.

Now, it's really nothing personal. Really it's more of a friendly rivalry based on mutual respect.

Sure, I've sent my share of incendiary devices to their offices. That was all in good fun.

Nobody died.

... I think.

But honestly there are some lines you just don't cross, some acts that are just so fundamentally wrong that a thinking person could not even perceive of doing them.

WoW has crossed such a line.

That is just plain wrong.

I don't consider very many things sacred, but stealing a man's DRAGON?

Damn, that's low.

I take this as a personal insult to me.

What's next? Will they name their next expansion Wrath of the Susan?

I'm a man who can get behind some stealing. I have been known to steal from time to time.

What? It's hard coming up with jokes.

But my dragon? MY DRAGON?

Have they no shame?

Oh yeah, they spelled it differently. That makes it soooo much better.

I wonder if they feel the same way about World of Whorecraft.

No, I did not make that part up.

I kind of wish I did. Then I wouldn't have to know that there are actually people who like this shit.

Seriously, what kind of person would take a man's dragon like that? Were there not enough random dragon names around that they had to go and take mine?

Now, I'm mad.

And I send incendiary devices when I'm in a good mood.


At 9:15 PM, Blogger Adam said...

I myself play WoW and I have to admit the fact that when I saw this new monster, I immediately thought of Jormy too.

Anyway, loving the blog Dave. Keep it up <3

At 9:51 PM, Blogger Ben said...

That's interesting. Because I thought of the World Serpent of Norse mythology.

At 10:08 PM, Blogger Alex said...

Don't be stupid.

At 10:31 PM, Blogger jason said...

U know Dave they might be using it out of respect for FFXI and not as a insult...

At 11:11 PM, Blogger Kallixenia said...

History had a claim on it before FFXI ever did.

At 11:58 PM, Blogger Tim said...

Being a WoW player, i know they like to throw in little shout outs to many things from gaming and television in their game. It's sorta their way of showing respect. Dont feel threatened by this. It only means they like you. Do you think Gene Roddenberry is pissed because they stole Jordy Laforge? Jhordy Lapforge The designers throw in little easter eggs like that to pay homage to significant icons of the time and past times.

At 12:46 AM, Blogger Adam said...

I think the last 5 commenter's gave me an aneurysm...

Alex: as you're such a fan of wikipedia, why don't you try these articles:

At 12:52 AM, Blogger Zanza said...

I've been following up on this blog for quite some time now and I have read all the posts made by both Dave and Susan.

This is my first time posting a comment and I do so because it seems that no-one quite understands the way Dave thinks.

Stop trying to comfort him, stop trying to change his outlook on this matter.

Now I could go on and on explaining why I say this; but honestly, it is not worth my time. I will just give a different example and point of view:

How would you feel if someone stole your girlfriend from you.

Yes, it might not be as grave as this, but there are just some things in a man's life that you just don't mess with. End of discussion.

At 1:37 AM, Blogger Harsisus said...

I agree with zanza on this one.

If you're going to poke around in someone's box of chocolates - expect to lose your hand.

*Waits to see what Dave does next*

At 2:18 AM, Blogger David said...

Well if "you" stole that girlfriend first, I don't see it mattering as much ...

Also, WoW's version of Jormungandr is arguably more historically correct as well! ;)

Still sort of funny, and honestly, I was just waiting for it (;D), but too paradoxical to be hysterical in my opinion.

At 6:48 AM, Blogger Bufuman said...

Dave, I really don't think you've got it that bad in this case. Now, if WoW made these Jormungar into big, purple dragons, THEN you'd have a right to bitch. Instead, they are big, blue worms. Hardly as intimidating as your Jormy. I'm pretty sure your wyvern can take them.

At 7:31 AM, Blogger Conor said...

So your dragon has a twin brother. I smell a sitcom. Keep it up Dave.

At 9:25 AM, Blogger L.C.W. said...

I would like to learn how to send explo..., er flami.., I mean lovely mail to a few people as well Dave, could you share some techniques?

At 10:06 AM, Blogger Music-chan said...

I'm sure Blizzard is shaking in their boots at the wrath of GM Dave. ;)

At 11:17 AM, Blogger Laserx said...

OMG THOSE LOSERS!!! *takes out his server destroying kit, packs a few sandwiches and heads off to where the WoW servers are*

Server Destroying Kit Includes:
1: One Huge hammer.
2: Ten Bombs
3: Two Grenade launchers
4: One Panzer Tank

Sandwich Includes... nvm

At 12:41 PM, Blogger Jessica R. said...

Lazerx, you don't need a server destroying kit to take out the WoW servers. Mannoroth at least goes down every Tues, Thurs, and whenever it feels lazy. Just send the copy boys coffee, they'll know how to screw up and drop it.

On a side note, history asks [GM]Dave to please send Blizzard an incendiary device. Last it checked, the world serpent was not an ice version of the creatures from Dune.

At 12:48 PM, Blogger fourstringsandapurpose said...

Wow. Definitely have to agree with zanza here. Even though history had Jormy first, FFXI had Jormy in an MMO first.

Still, at least it's not a direct clone. And yes, Jorm could definitely whip those little worms fast.

At 3:12 PM, Blogger wai said...

I thought of Jormy myself when I saw that. But I'd like to point out a few things to anyone who might not realize them.

1: Not a dragon. Giant subterranean worm and dragon are two very, very different things. Jormy can kick blue-worm's butt any day of the week.

2: They're giving the name to a species, not to one specific creature (i.e. "These are all ice worms but the biggest and baddest is Jormungar!"). In my eyes, at least, that's not so bad.

3: If you ignore the obvious mythological connotations, technically you could accuse Square of stealing the name Jormungand (along with Tiamat) from two of the Zerg broods in Starcraft. So really this is just Blizzard taking back what's theirs.

I'm not trying to dish on the joke because I did laugh, but I'm apparently enough of a Starcraft nerd to know that the Zerg broods had names like Jormungand, Tiamat, Araq, and Fenris, so I sort of look at this in a different light. When I first started reading this blog, Jormungand actually reminded me of the zerg. Now Jormy stands out on his own in my mind. Dave's humor has overcome my Starcraft nerdery and for that I salute him!

At 6:59 PM, Blogger RurouniZanza said...

For correcting the last poster, Tiamat first appeared in FFI as one of the 4 elemental fiends.

So technically, Blizzard took Taimat from Square as well.

At 7:45 PM, Blogger Donomni said...

Expanding what conor said:

Jor, the show about nothing!
*That Seinfeld sound*

At 10:15 PM, Blogger Ben said...

To correct the poster two posts above me, Tiamat first came from Babylonian mythology. You know, just about everything from fantasy has mythological roots.

So technically, both Square and Blizzard have stolen innumerable concepts from mythology.

At 11:39 PM, Blogger Bobby said...

OMG! A video game used mythology.

Because, you know. Bahamut, Ifrit, Shiva, Ramuh, etc are all original Square concepts.

Grow up Dave.

At 11:52 PM, Blogger Cody said...

Wow. This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever seen on the internet.

Congratulations, that's a very impressive feat. Your check is in the mail.

At 12:28 AM, Blogger Sen said...

Hrm... and just think neither game got it right... It's a giant snake that eats Thor... not a dragon (regardless of how epic dragons are)... not a worm (which eats tundra apparently)

At 6:04 AM, Blogger MinorAgentofChaos said...

For correcting the last poster, Tiamat first appeared in FFI as one of the 4 elemental fiends.

Correction, Tiamat first appeared in first edition Advanced Dungeons & Dragons. FFI ripped off TSR & Gary Gygax.

The Babylonians are all dead, so they don't count.

So there.

At 8:08 AM, Blogger Nymph said...

Wow ...
This post seems to have brought the absolute worst out in people.

I must say though, i do love the mindless posts "NO THEY STOLE IT FROM THESE PEOPLE" , get real people that's what the world is, we steal everything !!!
So go back to sitting in front of your mirrors and looking at your crater faces , wishing you had friends.

At 8:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen this pattern alot.
Game developers took some references but try not to be too obvious.
People whine about it not being similar to the real thing.
Game developers took some references and try to make it as similar as it could.
People accuse them from stealing the idea.

At 6:45 AM, Blogger Sechakecha said...

That is a low blow to you, my good sir. And on behalf of the stupidity of all the wow players who commented on here saying you're being stupid, I appologize for them. They clearly are too busy staring at their female night elf behind and too busy being fan boys to understand exactly what you are trying to get across.

At 11:10 PM, Blogger Chrissy said...

"Do you think Gene Roddenberry is pissed because they stole Jordy Laforge?"
I think the answer to that is "no" because the expanded answer is "no, because he's dead."

I'm pretty sure that's not a good example.

At 10:15 AM, Blogger Tyler said...

On top of stealing [GM]Dave's pet/ally/buddy Jormungand, has anyone but me noticed the title of their expansion?

Wrath of the Lich-King.

What does that sound like to you? Battle for Middle Earth II's:

Rise of the Witch-King.

Is Blizzard even TRYING to rip people off anymore? I mean, before they stole everything from everyone, but now they're just blatantly doing it.

No one. NO ONE hates World of Warcrap more than me.

At 2:21 PM, Blogger semele said...

I do love your Jormy.

I take this as a nod to you from WoW (without the financial implications of such a nod, presumably) to say they too read your blog and love Jormy so much they gave her more than a cameo in their game.

There is a WoW player (OxHorn) who makes WoW movies - he's not a Blizzard employee, just a guy - and he has a great one called Red Snapper (which probably won't make sense unless you played WoW right around the time of the expansion) and later they introduced a fishing quest that requires you to find Red Snapper and they make a nod to OxHorn in it. He probably wasn't compensated either. :(

But I still think its kinda cool recognition.


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