Last Thing... I Swear
Okay, this is the last thing I'm going to say about the whole duping controversy.Wait... Controversy isn't the right word.
A controversy involves two sides that both have valid points.
What's the word for when one side has a valid point and the other side is a bunch of whiny little bitches?
Anyway...
I wanted to point out one of the dumbest arguments being made.
Then, once I have pointed it out, I'll make fun of it.
You know how this goes.
I don't know how many of you have been following the arguments about the bannings. I guess a lot of it would depend on whether or not you play FFXI.
Or were really, really bored.
I've actually enjoyed reading most of the discussions about it.
It's like watching a car accident. You just can't look away.
This car accident just happens to involve a short bus.
One of the most common points made by the anti-banning (read: whiny bitch) crowd is that SE has basically stolen or destroyed incredibly valuable accounts.
I'll admit, there are sites where you can sell your account for a chunk of cash.
If you think about it that way, I suppose one could think their account has a certain monetary value.
One guy who got banned had pretty much everything.
I mean everything.
No doubt, that account would have been worth a fortune.
I guess they sort of have a point there.
Well... They WOULD have a point.
They would have a point if it wasn't against like seventeen different rules to sell your account.
At the exact second you decided to try and sell your oh so valuable account, it would become entirely worthless.
See, we ban people for trying to sell their accounts for real world money.
We ban people for lots of things.
Though... I guess you already figured that out.
Ouch.
Your character does not have a real money value. It's not worth anything.
Yes, I know you paid a lot of money to play the game over the years.
Yes, I know you put a lot of time into that character.
Still not worth anything.
This isn't some sort of investment you're working on. You're playing a game.
A.
Game.
The fees you pay each month are for the experience, for the hours you spend hanging out with friends and going on adventures.
You're paying for time so that you can work on that character.
This isn't a freaking secret or something.
We're not running some bait and switch where you went into this thinking you were creating a product to be sold later.
You bought a game.
You played a game.
Then... You got banned from a game.
Nobody owes you anything.
You got exactly what you paid for.
You got time.
Time's up.
posted by Goblin Smithy @ 6:17 PM
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Wanna hear another retarded thing about selling your account? At one point, and it could be years...
You're gonna want it back. And it'll kill you to not be able to play your char again.
Yes, I sold my account. Shoot me in the face.
You can all rest assured, however, that not being able to log on with m beloved alter-ego ever again is punishment enough.
Seriously, what was I thinking?
"Well... They WOULD have a point. They would have a point if it wasn't against like seventeen different rules to sell your account."
Ownt.
I sold my account for lotsa moolah and I never looked back.
Hey, Jar Jar, 1999 called, they want their lingo back.
The last two lines tied it together really nice. I like it.
In the entire ToS there are only two emphasised sections.
"SE MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE ANY PLAYONLINE ACCOUNT AT ANY TIME, WITH ANY REASON OR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE."
and
"YOU DO NOT OWN YOUR ACCOUNT OR CHARACTER OR HAVE ANY PROPERTY RIGHTS TO YOUR CHARACTER OR ITS VIRTUAL ASSETS. YOU MAY NOT SELL, RENT, OR REPRODUCE YOUR CHARACTER OR ITS VIRTUAL ASSETS FOR ANY COMMERCIAL PURPOSE."
This was pointed out by Kaeko, one of the people banned, and my all-time favorite person in all of FFXI(Sorry [GM]Dave, but Enmity Tables > Jormy). Read his blog for a far more dignified response to being banned than you will see on bg :)
Aximus-
You... rule.
Thanks for the quote from the ToS.
Still can't understand why people are having a problem with this.
Maybe SE should start on APRADAR and other "windower" formats next?
~Yote
I know in some games it's not necessarily the whole "i could sell my account for lots of money" sort of thing. When they bring up value, they tend to refer to the company as having lost a customer who can supply them continuously with money.
Still, not a good argument.
I find it funny that people still dont get that when they joined the game they, in effect, signed a contract. Going against the ToS violates said contract and SE reserves the right to do whatever they want.
Hell, if SE were such "real asshats" they could sue for breach of contract...
You sign a contract which says that your character and any money or items attached to that character is owned by Square-Enix.
Square-Enix is, by law and by sense, allowed to do whatever the heck they want to do to characters, money, or items.
You pay them money because FFXI is a never-ending game. It's like buying a whole new game every 6 months. It has infinite replayability. That's why it costs money. If it didn't cost money, we would either have a really cruddy game, or we would have to buy in-game stuff anyway.
Interestingly, MY guild master in WoW bought a character from a guildie who was quitting for a couple of hundred quid. And blizzard banned him. He took them to court and blizzard backed down and unsuspended the account. Apparently its because it constitutes renting a service and thus all the stuff in the ToC / eula becomes invalid legally.
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