Wednesday, February 03, 2010

We Need To Shut Up Already

I get that the entire point of the internet is to complain about mundane shit.

Well... That and hardcore pornography.

Seriously. I understand that. I've built myself a nice little hobby out of it.

The complaining... Not the porn.

But there's a line that our gaming community has been passing a little too easily lately: Complaining for no good freaking reason.

If you don't want to buy a game, don't buy it. It's that simple. You don't have to look for stupid shit to complain about.

It's even worse if the game has any sort of hype behind it. Then people are going to just make shit up as they go so they can sound cool enough to hate what everyone else loves.

Call of Duty? Too much shooting.

Seriously? Seriously?!

We as gamers should hold ourselves to higher standards. We're not Ma and Pa Gribble getting on this new fangled interweb thang and trying to post message on our Facewall.

We're refined.

We're sophisticated.

We're at least intelligent enough to not act like a bunch of whiny little bastards over every little thing.

Case in point: Mass Effect 2.

If you have not heard of this game, welcome to our planet. Mind the wildlife and enjoy your stay.

Mass Effect 2 is a big game. A game so large, in fact, that it requires multiple discs.

That's right. Multiple DVDs.


Now, back in my day, that was the sign of a good game. Back in my day, a good game had to have 2 or 3 or even 4 discs.

Lord help you if you got a PC game way back. You opened a box to find 29 floppies that had to be installed.

In order.

But that shit was a sign of quality. The game was just so damned good that it required extra discs to contain all the awesomeness.

Ask any Final Fantasy gamer their favorite part of the Playstation titles and they will not list a scene or a sequence. No, they'll say disc 3.

That's just how it was.

Mass Effect 2 comes out and suddenly, people don't understand that anymore. Reviewers are saying shit like "Don't get comfortable."

What the hell?!

Don't get comfortable? The game requires you to change a disc probably once every twenty hours.

What the F&%@ does it take for you to get comfortable?

Jesus. I've only been sat here for the better part of a day. Now, I've got to change a disc? F&%@ THAT!

And what's the big freaking deal anyway? Is your console in some other country, a land so distant that travel is arduous and consuming?

It's right there.


You can probably see it from where you're sitting.

Get the F&%@ over it.

Now, you might think I'm just bitching about stupid people.

I tend to do that.

This time, though... This time, I've got a point.

Remember a few years ago, when Devil May Cry came out? Remember the freaking clusterF&%@ circus about how long it took to install the game? People lost their freaking minds because they had to wait for the game to do a mandatory install.

People hated that.

So, what did the Mass Effect guys say?

Hey, let's put that shit on multiple discs so that they won't have to install the game.

Yay! Everyone's happy!

Oh, wait... No they're not. Now, they're complaining about having to switch discs.

Basically, we're looking at developers and telling them that we want extremely long games with amazing graphics and sound that require absolutely no install while somehow being contained on a single disc.

Yeah... It's no wonder they don't take us more seriously.

Hey, every copy should include a free unicorn. They can find them wherever in the hell we think they're going to get this magical super-disc technology.

I've figured out the perfect solution to everyone's problems: stop bitching.

See? The world is a better place already.


At 8:45 PM, Blogger Jon said...

People like the attention that complaining garners and many people are not happy unless they are miserable. Go figure.

At 8:58 PM, Blogger Jeff said...

Blu-ray is the solution. We just need a few years for it to become the norm. Then you can fit several discs worth of game into a single disc.

At 10:32 PM, Blogger golden_knyte said...

Amen Dave!

If ppl would complain that had merit to the arguement it wouldnt phase me much...but the fact that person would rather waste the time and effort to whine over something that they prolly only played at a in-store demo...

Case in point: any FPS major bitch topic:

"Defending an objective is camping! and camping means you suck!"

my thoughts:
Soooo...what? you telling me you would rather have to recapture/assault/ass-kick/fart lightning that particular objective over and over and over again while the other team kicks our ass? good plan...wish i thought of it instead of saving your dumb ass from having a missile smash your head clear out your ass.

Jeff, Blu-ray IS the norm now. HD-DVD (the 360's format) lost. No one outside of lol360 code for HD-DVD now. Its either DVD or Blu-Ray for movies.

Oh btw, did you hear Dave? FF13 for the 360 is gonna have multiple discs too. HA! HA!

At 11:51 PM, Blogger Ben said...

I for one like campers. Gives you time to line up your shot.

As far as whiners go:

"Whining gets you stuff. That's why humans are at the top of the food chain, and all the other animals got nerfed."

- Some random guy

At 11:57 PM, Blogger Ixtli said...

I mostly agree with you.
The only area that I don't agree with you is in regard to old pc games. Some of which had 7-10 discs, and you had to swap a cd to go to a different building. This issue was compounded when most of the information stored on the disc involved the three to five minute walk to the character/plot point. In puzzle games frequent disc changing became very tedious. It wasn't a game breaker by any stretch of the imagination, but it was annoying.
I really did wish such a magical world did exist. This is party because I would love to see the ass-backwards complaints these Paragons of Intelect(P.o.I.) would have about such a world. Somehow I can hear the phrase
P.o.I.: "This whole perfection thing could be better." being uttered.
As far as I have been able to tell, based on PS1/2 titles, especially in comparison to the corresponding generation of Nintendo console, multiple discs always meant more content. It may not have always meant quality, but you could safely bet that a game with 4 discs wasn't going to be short. You were likely going to be put into a detailed world with lots of detailed characters and hopefully a well-crafted story. While not completely accurate, you could generalize games with more discs as better because you could do more with the added space the additional disc/s allowed.

At 2:44 AM, Blogger Dyamalos said...

As far as I know, DMC never needed an install, unless that was only on the PS3 for DMC4. (I have 1-3 and 4 for 360)

I've recently got a PS3 and with it, Metal Gear Solid 4... Big game...

Also, it has to do a little install before each chapter. But I like the way it seems to do it. 8min install when you first start the game, installs required files needed for everything as well as the first chapter's files. Then a shorter 2-4 min install for each chapter after. best part, it deletes older chapters so it won't take up any more space.

Also, they make a joke about having to change discs in MGS1 and then go "oh we're on blu-ray".

And I guarantee that ff13 will have a minimum 4 discs on 360 for the fact that Lost Odessy is only about 25-35 hours long and is 4.

At 8:30 AM, Blogger Mark said...

What I read said FF 13 is on 3 discs for the 360. My only complaint is having to change the disc when I have it installed on my darn hard drive, but I get why I guess. I agree with the feeling of more discs being better quality though so I don't mind it at all.

At 10:19 AM, Blogger chris said...

usually games install the content that's "always" there and leave things like cinematics to be played from the disc. Diabolo 2 for instance. You had the option to install the videos but you didn't have to. The only thing you needed to install was the gameplay stuff. When videos came up you'd simply pop the disc in and watch it then pop the play disc back in. The reason for this was memory was not so cheap as it is now. I still know people with 10gb HDD's from way back when.

At 12:12 PM, Blogger Music-chan said...

FREE UNICORN! Awesome! =p

At 1:52 PM, Blogger Leut said...

had to wait for freakin ever to load this blog post. WTF?? I want Dave's blog to be loaded on multiple disks. I want to be able to load the blog imediately on the inside of my eyelids. I want my brain to imediately register the sarcasm from Dave and to actually be Jormy at thought command.

Yeah. That.

At 1:55 PM, Blogger Delgado of the Rock said...

Epic post here.

At 8:49 PM, Blogger chris said...

I see what you did there.

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At 5:27 PM, Blogger Salt said...

That's right. Multiple DVDs.
Bluray. Fixt.

Hey, let's put that shit on multiple discs so that they won't have to install the game.
Well, not all 360s are capable of "installs". For most part the developer can't even count on the a hard drive being there to even use for cacheing.

Inferior tech has come to bite users in the ass. Surprise.
/fan flames

At 5:42 AM, Blogger Jeffrey Mathis said...

Ah, the joy of installing multiple floppies in order. I miss those days.

At 9:06 AM, Blogger Mil'bereth said...

Magic Disc = Blu Ray

Unicorn = Horse with a goiter on its forehead

Reviewers= Shut the fu%# up and get a real job

At 1:35 AM, Blogger Nepherael said...

Agreed, considering it's too much to ask for for people to just all of a sudden make smart comments or constructive criticism on a game.

BTW Mass Effect 2 is one of the most amazing games i have been privileged enough to play. When was the last time you saw a good game that could import saves from the previous title and the decisions you made before alter the story in amazing ways? .Hack maybe?

@Jeff the blu-ray version of DMC4 had a very long install time on the PS3. blu-ray isn't the answer to the 'zomg install/changing disks suckz' phenomena. Large games with loads of gameplay will always = install time or multiple disks, and i can't say i'm upset about it. Still to this day multiple disks means as much to me as it did when i opened FF7, i actually bragged about the multiple disks on ME2 to a buddy as a selling point for him to get it.

At 3:35 AM, Blogger Dice said...



Nuff Said.

At 6:16 PM, Blogger Darkskeleton said...

Heh people are spoiled these days and its just going to get worse. The bitching doesn't surprise me in the least.

At 7:41 AM, Blogger Absolutezero said...

Just a few quick comments here.

1) Yes you do have to install most Blu-ray games on PS3, least most of the ones I play, so not so much of a magic disc there.

2) the disc changing in Mass Effect isnt that often unless you play all your missions ass-backwards. the first round of missions and quests are on the first disc, the latter on the second, and only the final mission takes you back to the first disc. so were talking 2 disk changes max unless you play some strange mix of new missions and old quests. in which case thats your own damn fault.

3) Mass Effect 1 and 2 are awesome, nuff said.


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